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The Eight-Track Miracle: 8 Reasons It Failed

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WHEN eight-track tapes hit the shelves in the latter part of the Sixties, it was seen as a godsend.  All of a sudden, you could listen to your music collection in your car, or out-and-about with the new boom-boxes.  There were even rumors it would completely replace the vinyl record.  Yet, just over a decade later, the humble cassette tape was able to drive it to extinction.  Its heyday lasted from 1968-1975, and by 1980 the poor eight-track was in history’s dustbin, a sort-of laughable derelict from the Seventies.

So what happened? Here are 8 reasons for its untimely demise.

1. TOTALLY UNRELIABLE

 

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The primary reason the eight-track became extinct was because it was an unreliable piece of shit.  They simply weren’t built to last and subsequently earned a reputation as being ticking time bombs.  Truth be told, brand new eight-tracks often sounded good, and the tapes themselves were virtually indestructible: they never melted in the sun or cracked.  It was the internal components that started to fall to pieces over time.  If the manufacturers hadn’t opted for cheap construction, things might have turned out differently.

 

 

2.  CAR STEREOS HATED THEM

 

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Anyone who had an eight-track player in their car knows the trauma of having the tape eaten.  Owing to its problematic construction, the eight-track became notorious for becoming a tangled wretched mess…. usually during the best part of your favorite song.

 

 

3. THE ANNOYING SONG FADE OUT

 

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It was quite common for a single song on an album to fade out and fade back in as it transitioned to a new track.  Eight-track tapes consisted of actually 4 tracks (each in stereo, totaling 8).  Unfortunately, this meant that they had to be equal in length, which didn’t necessarily jive with the original LP.  Suffice it to say, things had to be adjusted and some songs had to be split into two parts – thus the annoying song fade out and in.

 

 

4. COPYRIGHT PROBLEMS

 

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Eight-tracks were the first music medium to introduce the issue of copyright protection.  The fact that you could easily record on them brought floods of illegal copies to truck stops and flea markets across the US.  There’s a famous story of Jerry Lee Lewis taking a baseball bat to a shelf of bootleg eight-tracks he came across when he stopped for gas.  However, the issue never became widespread enough to affect the way the music industry did business; it wasn’t until the mp3 format took hold that the foundations began to shake

 

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Funny.  I don’t remember this Beatles album. An 8-track bootleg.

But did the growing abundance of homemade eight-tracks really have anything to do with its downfall? After all, the cassette tape was geared toward making unlicensed recordings.  Perhaps it wasn’t directly responsible, but the ability to easily make backyard bootlegs didn’t do the eight-track any favors in the reputation department.  The music industry would learn to live with a degree of illegal copies on the market, but the eight-track absorbed the initial scorn.

 

 

5. FILTHY AND TRASHY MUSIC COLLECTION OF SHAME

 

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Despite the fact that eight-tracks began as techno-marvels, developed by Bill Lear (of Lear Jets no less), they soon earned a reputation as being not only unreliable, but also tacky.  As I mentioned, the case was basically bulletproof, but the sticker was not.  Thus, everyone’s collection consisted of sturdy cartridges with worn, peeling and stained stickers.  There was no real outer decorative case as with CDs and cassettes, just the cartridge.  And so, unlike the source of pride which was your record collection, the filthy eight-track collection often became a thing of shame in the floorboard of your car.

 

 

6. YOU CAN’T REWIND

 

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It may seem trivial, but not being able to rewind become a real downside to the eight-track.  It was a breath of fresh air to be able to roll backwards with the cassette tape. This negative wasn’t quite outweighed by a strong positive quality of the eight-track: it was on an infinite loop. While the cassette and record would abruptly stop when it reached the end of a side, the eight-track would play for all eternity…. or at least a few hours before it busted.

 

 

7. THE DREADED BLEED-THROUGH

 

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I won’t go into the mechanics of the eight-track (there’s always Wikipedia for that).  I’ll just point out that, if the heads became misaligned even slightly (a VERY common occurrence) the one track would bleed-through into another track.  Worst case scenario: two songs at equal pitch playing at the same time.  Best case: a faint background of an altogether different track.  Either way, it was a thoroughly miserable listening experience.

 

 

8. CASSETTES ARE CHEAP

 

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Ultimately isn’t this what it all boils down to?  If the eight-track had been a pinch more reliable and worked out its kinks, perhaps the lower price wouldn’t have been such a death blow.  In other words, the cassette wasn’t exactly a revelation the way CDs and mp3s seemed to be at first; so, there was no reason to think a slightly lower price would matter so much.  But since the eight-track was under-delivering, all it took was a competing product being just a couple dollars cheaper.

 

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File under 8-tracks we’d love to have seen.  Perhaps an Atari-8-track combo would’ve given it just enough cool points to stay around a few years longer.

But let’s not be too hard on the eight-track.  For a few years, it was awesome and we loved it.  Like all technologies, it got supplanted by something else.  Indeed, the cassette’s reign of glory was short lived as well; barely making it out of the eighties before the CD beat it into submission.  Then the CD became overshadowed by iTunes and mp3s…. and so it goes.

As for myself – I’ve stuck with records and am quite happy.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • mahatmacoatmabag

    Anorak, I never knew that there was an 8 track called ” Female Freaks in Acton ” mind you I knew a few in Hammersmith & Fullham , so I suppose its only natural that there were some in next door Acton too !

  • Steve Mills

    I didn’t mind the fade out/in. When I recorded my own 8-tracks, I just let it record straight over the track change. No big deal. The *clunk* was better than the fade.

    As for bleed-through, I actually kinda like that. When the last big long piano chords fades out at the end of “A Day in the Life”, I would hear “Lovely Rita” come through as the chord got quiet. It was my own custom version of that song, and I still expect to hear it that way when I hear it today. It sends me back to a great time in my life.

  • Tammy Lacroix

    trivia time – one of the last titles released on 8 track was “Never Mind The Bollocks” by sex pistols. its very rare and worth a few hundred dollars.

    • Brad Conrad

      It’s true that sometimes it grabs a few hundred dollars but it’s not true that its one of the last titles released – not even close.

  • D.a. Trappert

    Some 8-tracks got around the fade-in/fade-out problem by repeating a song. The biggest problem was that the tape would break or come apart where it was joined. Radio Shack sold an 8-track repair kit to splice it back together, which I did many times. I also recorded my own 8-tracks on blank tapes from Radio Shack. As Steve Mills mentions in his post, it was a lot easier just to record over the break if you didn’t want to go to the trouble of figuring out a set of songs for each track that wouldn’t leave a lot of blank space. My first 8-tracks were two from the Archies, their first album and Jingle Jangle. My father also had some Irish Rovers that we listed to a lot.

  • Brad Conrad

    All good points above.

    Some 8 tracks were manufactured extremely well with metal leaf springs instead of foam tape support (which disintegrated quickly) and cured rubber pinch rollers instead of melty rubber or hard plastic. Too bad there was no overarching quality control because, all things being equal, 8 track tapes have a higher fidelity than cassettes; 8 Tracks run at 3.75 inches per second which is more than twice the speed of a cassette and the tape track width is the same as cassette (1/16″ per stereo pair).

    Also if you record over the break/splice and play back the tape loud enough you don’t even notice the clunk.

  • Mapster68

    Actually your first point “it was an unreliable piece of shit.” pretty much summed up my experience. The parking lot at my high school was littered with the piled-up remains of eaten tapes – like corpses rotting in the sun (a very putrid image I might add).

  • Despiser_of_Libs

    Records. Hahaha. Id take an 8 track over a record anyday.. Mobile record players never quite caught on for some reason…

    I never knew anyone or saw any devices that recorded an 8 track tape.

    • CaptainNed

      Roomie my sophomore year in college (’82-’83) had a recording 8-track deck that I believe carried the J.C. Penney brand name. He recorded most of my vinyl onto blank 8-tracks he sourced from nowhere I ever knew so he could play them in his circa-1970 Plymouth with a big-block.

  • KAP47

    1. You couldn’t rewind, but you could switch between the four programs as often as you liked (perhaps listening to part of another program until the song you hated was over). 2. 8-tracks were sold with a slipcase; a google image search reveals some of them. 3. The song fade-out wasn’t all that common; the majority of albums were composed of roughly 3-minute songs, and could be divided into four programs fairly easily (though the track order might have to be changed). The difficulty came when there was an especially long song.

  • John Valdez

    My buddy Frank and I went back and forth on the reliability of 8-tracks vs. Cassettes. We both lost. Both tapes broke given the quality of the
    deck, the little felt would fall out of the compact cassette or its wheels would seize and the foam wheels on the 8-track would crumble
    into the cartridge and/or tape player. I know car stereos ate tape, but that was all tape, not just 8-track and honestly, my player only ate
    one of my track tapes because I never left them in the car to get heat damage and all tape cartridges were susceptible to heat damage–Franks
    AC/DC tape got its front end melted when he left it on the dash of his truck.

    I totally agree that tape fade in/out was responsible–it was part of the marketing points for pushing cassettes. I can’t attribute 8-track’s death
    to copyright problems–it wasn’t really of great concern even when cassettes came out. Most 8-track machines were simply players
    and I only knew one person when I was a kid who had an 8-track recorder. I never even saw one in the store. 8-tracks usually came with a
    sleeve and sometimes little promotional stickers/materials, etc. They lost their luster due to cheap labels, such as the ones used for Atari
    cartridges but folks didn’t really care at the time. The rewind thing is total bull. You could change channels, fast-forward and had a much
    better control over your tape than cassette. In fact, cassette tried to copy this astounding feature with auto-reverse and marketed this
    advance as such. Bleed through happened, mostly on portable decks or low quality home players. This was inevitable and servicing your
    machine became a matter of replacing it. Machine maintenance was necessary though for any tape player which by the way contributed to
    the demise of compact cassettes as well.

    But the main reason that cassettes won out over 8-tracks was really that they (compact cassettes) were sold in great quantity from the early sixties to the seventies mostly as a blank tape for recorders. We GENERALLY recorded 8-track tapes onto compact cassette because cassette recorders were so cheap. Remember, music was mostly purchased by younger people; old folks listened to the radio–they saw no reason to record music. And, that my friends is what killed the 8-track. One kid bought an 8-track or record and 10 kids recorded it onto cassette. We even traded cassette mixes long before the word mix tape was popular. Buying music directly on compact cassette was a natural evolution for those too busy to record an 8-track to a cassette because we eventually went to work to buy our music. I should also mention that the cassette killed vinyl for at least a decade. Compact cassette also had variable uses as a data storage medium for home computers in the late 70s and early 80s. Its size truly played a major role in the mindset of folks especially with the advent of the SONY Walkman–smaller technology is often viewed during that time and even today as more advanced. Folks still record on cassettes, believe it or not, because you can still buy blank media and you can still find portable cassette players/recorders in local stores. It’s too bad that 8-track didn’t have the longevity or flexibility for more uses–I would’ve liked to have seen one in a computer tower.

  • John Doe

    I guess the reason a mobile record player never caught on was the stylus would skip on the awful roads here in Pennsylvania. Other states have lumpy roads too but these are so bad that early CD players skipped a lot. I have heard of mobile record players but I would expect them to be very rare. I wonder if they would be worth a lot just as an odd thing that not many people have.

  • Mas Noslohcin

    #4 is bizarre. I mean David Gilmour wasn’t even on The Piper at the Gates of Dawn.

  • Charles Dennis Poling

    Awful picky considering if it weren’t for this technology people in the late sixties throughout the seventies would have been stuck with the biased DJ’s who played nothing but TOP 10 over & over again. Same today listen to any radio station and see if you hear an oldies song that might have made it to say number 20 on Billboard. Doesn’t happen regardless that solid hit songs are considered to be top 40 and any song in top 100 at the very least is a moderate hit. I guess they should have used 2016 technology in 1966 when 8 tracks were introduced. Gee I wonder why they didn’t?

    • Daniël Oosterhuis

      Compact Cassettes would have gone mainstream earlier if 8-track didn’t exist. While 8-track came out in 1965/66, the Compact Cassette came out in 1962/63. Car dash units were already available in 1968. Simply put, if the 8-track didn’t exist, it wouldn’t have been like what you describe there.

      • Charles Dennis Poling

        Probably too expensive compared to 8 tracks at the time. It’s always about money in this greed stricken society until they get people addicted and then the price drops drastically with the exception of certain video game consoles that is. Like with the VHS and Beta wars, Beta was much better and more COMPACT than VHS but more expensive and less titles available. Needless to say who won that one.

      • tunnelportterror .

        cassettes sound like shit, they only play at 1-7/8 ips. even with all the metal tape formulations, and dolby, etc. you can hear they are limited compared to an 8-track. if they ever gave the 8-track the metal and chrome tape the cassette had, it would blow cassette away, cuz 8-track plays at 3.75 IPS, twice the speed of a cassette. with analog tape it’s all about tape speed.
        not being able to rewind is not a downside of 8-track, rather it’s a perk- YOU NEVER HAD TO REWIND IT. what about that ?? just keep playing. want to start over again ? switch from track 2, to 3-4 and back to 1. there you are rewound, with a few button clicks.

        • Daniël Oosterhuis

          Yeah, and songs had to often be cut up for the tracks. Really inconvenient, and a good cassette will always beat 8-track in the real world.

          • Steve Mills

            Nope, they don’t. Songs didn’t *have* to be cut. When I recorded my own 8-track, I just recorded right over the track change. The dropout was about as annoying as a piece of dirt on a record.

  • tunnelportterror .

    what a crock of shit this article is, 8-track didn’t “fail”- it was introduced in 1966 for Ford cars, and lasted 20 FRIGGIN’ YEARS. they were still making them for the home record/tape clubs in 1986. the tapes routinely sell for $10-$100 each on Ebay now. and they sound a lot better than these shitty under-sampled CD’s….if you want to see a format that failed, now there is one- the CD. it’s GONE. you can find them on the ground on the side of the road all the time. once they skip or get scratched deep, they are UNREPAIRABLE. you can fix any 8-track tape, they are extremely durable and repairable. and with a good tube stereo amp, they sound awesome. it’s reel to reel tape at 3.75 ips inside a cartridge. the audio tracks are practically the same width and speed as professional broadcast Betacam and U-matic cartridges used by all the major broadcast and TV stations since 1970, and still going today. those pro formats have 50hz-15khz bandwidth response, which the 8-track better decks easily match, with more recording time on the 90 minute tape to boot. and some decks went even higher like the Akai decks, reached 16khz-17khz top end. the dumb asses that write these articles never changed a friggin’ spark plug, they’re trendy assholes always pushing the latest fad for the big corporations, who have now all move to China. like a Chinese made CD is so damned high end, played on a Sony or Pioneer also made in China ? now that is the proverbial POS. The Telex and Capitol decks were made in USA and still going strong today.

    • Ray

      Well said!! 8 tracks aren’t bad at all, I still have a few and they play fine.

    • Martín Gabastou

      If only cassettes had adopted the 8-track tapes….they’d have sounded gorgeously. I used to have a Grundig 8T deck that could also record. And they were so less expensive and convenient than lps. Still miss them.

    • geolemon

      None of what you say counters the points of the article, to back your allegation that the article is a “crock of shit”.
      Are you arguing that the cassette tape wasn’t more durable and reliable than the 8 track?
      That it wasn’t less expensive?
      That it wasn’t better sound quality than the 8 track?

      You give no arguments that counter the author’s points – much less justifying your “crock of shit” label. The weaknesses of the format are as the author stated. A few “survivors”, working or not today – that doesn’t change a thing with regard to the common complaints, frustrations, or failures. If you are still driving a 1972 Cordoba with a working 8-track, good for you. Realize you are probably the last human on earth using it – for all the aforementioned reasons.
      By contrast – vinyl. It came earlier than the 8 track, and it’s still popular – even seeing a resurgence today. You don’t see any 8-track resurgence, do you? No. Because the article isn’t a “crock of shit”.

      Even your attempted derision of the CD is a “crock of shit”, relatively speaking: it IS far harder to damage a CD than an 8 track – period. More importantly, even if a CD becomes loaded with scratches, they can be repaired quite easily and with a high success rate. Buy yourself a Disc Dr. if you don’t already have one… but your ignorance of these things does not constitute a point on your scoreboard.
      By sharp contrast – A crunched-up 8-track tape… not so repairable. Broken rollers inside? Instant trash.

      Cassette tapes, by comparison – occasionally became jammed and scrunched themselves. That’s just about the only failure they had, and it’s remarkable how durable cassette tapes were. And that failure wasn’t permanent, although it could leave a crackly spot. And that’s one reason people still kept looking for superior formats beyond the cassette tape. It’s called “progress”.
      And regardless – a crunched spot in a cassette tape beats an 8 track with the drone of the other songs in the background throughout the entire 8 track.

      Bottom line – it doesn’t matter that you can find a [precious] few survivors that still happen to work and play “just fine”.
      It’s your comment – not the article – that’s a “crock of shit”.

      Next time read for the enjoyment, not to be a dick.

  • tunnelportterror .

    if the tapes are serviced, the splices redone on both sides of the program switch, 8 track is very reliable, with a good player. the problem is, the Japs swamped the market with POS players that broke and ate tapes….and the tape mfr. didn’t double splice the tapes, only spliced on one side. those tapes have great sound if fixed. they have the same bandwidth as a professional Betacam or U-matic broadcast deck used at a TV station for A/V high end.